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The new Voter IDs -- with photos


I watched news show on what is asked to get a Voter ID in Pennsylvania. Veteran's IDs are not permitted. Why? many people (black too) have them. The places you can get an ID in Pennysylvania are in the suburbs. Vast areas in Pennsylvia are not covered.

The central point to remember is that everyone is supposed to have the right to vote from the time of the 15th amendment (passed after the civil war) for men and since 1928 for women. There is no voter fraud such as is alleged by republicans. The Pennsylvania attorney general came up with not one. That an ID is hard for other things does not matter. That IDs are required for getting on planes is irrelevant. No one has the right as part of his humanity or place in the republic to get on a plane. In the US no one has the right as yet to health care: Obama's act only makes it affordable for most.

To put a diffcult and for some impossible criteria (as for example black people in the south were regularly not registered when they were born so have no birth certificate) as necessary for voting is to stop people voting. It is to make them feel tehy are powerless and not equal to others, inferior, terrible about themselves too. It is shameful, shameless, ugly.



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Sep. 16th, 2012 01:59 pm (UTC)
It is almost impossible for non-drivers to get to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles without a car because these offices are often far out of town and not on bus routes. So, in other words, if a person is a non-driver, white or black, he or she probably is living off the grid, not by choice, but because it takes too much work to get an ID.

It's absolutely ridiculous that non-drivers' photo IDs are not available in a central location, because obviously they're not driving anywhere.

Sep. 17th, 2012 10:54 am (UTC)
Italian customs in voting

I have been following this story on npr. First I am surprised that so many people in the States do not have an ID. Second, I remember I went to vote round the corner here in Italy and met an ex-colleague of mine at the polls, I searched in my bag and found only my journalist card (which had been accepted once as a ID at another election), well, believe it or not, he made me come back home to get my official ID.

This to say that, although I did not like it at all, I was planning to dedicate something like half an hour to the entire business and it ended up with me running back and forth, I think it is what had to be done. My ID card number was then registered with my signature. How can they know who voted, who did not vote?


Far from being Republican, I think this is a needed step.
Sep. 17th, 2012 10:55 am (UTC)
Italian customs versus what's happening in the US
In response to Anny,

Given the modern use of computer, it is probably so that was the gov't in states or on the federal level even (states more likely) desirous of helping people to maintain their registration (you did always have to register to vote and there you showed lesser IDs -- no photo required, a driver's license), they could put information in a computer which would turn up when you came. US people might object to this: it's an obvious big brother is watching step.

But that's not what's being done. What the republicans are doing is putting things in the way they know poor, elderly and black people can't match. They put the few places in Pennsylvania where you get IDs outside the cities, just. They won't allow veterans IDs! people who risked their lives? why? they are often poor and black. I have but two IDs and one is dated 1989 (when I started teaching at GMU). They have a date beyond which you need a new ID.

It's transparent cruelty -- for it make the person feel terrible about themselves. And it's done to make the rich and powerful and white win. The self-complacent who identify with them are being seen as people who really don't think blacks, poor people, hispanic are American quite and have the right to vote. I realize the whole nonsense about Obama's birth certificate is a way of saying he cannot be a legitimate president because he's not a legitimate American because his skin does not register as white.

Sep. 18th, 2012 11:32 am (UTC)
well put: the example of what republicans would do were they really concerned about fraud
One shows proof of residency when one registers to vote, with a variety of forms of legal identification. Names then appear on a roll at the polling place, and the name and corresponding address are checked off twice (when entering and when leaving) the polling place. Voter fraud is so rare as to be non-existent.

Why suddenly is there a call for "voter ID" laws in the absence of any concern whatsoever about voter fraud? Why is this happening in an election year? Why is the cause led by Republicans alone? Why, if Republicans demand that everyone produce a a certain type of exclusive type of ID-card to exercise what is a right (not a privilege), is it so difficult to obtain?

Make no mistake: Republicans are doing everything they can to prevent certain populations from exercising their right to vote in order to ensure that Republicans "win" elections. They have explicitly admitted that. It's outrageous, and I only hope that the federal courts continue to strike down the new identification requirements.

In historical context, discriminatory laws regarding voting served the same purpose: to exclude certain populations. If Republicans really wanted to ensure that ID-card laws ensured each citizen's right to vote, they would be going door-to-door helping people get one. As it is, Republicans want to pervert democracy by allowing politicians to choose their own electorate, rather than letting the electorate choose them.

Sep. 18th, 2012 11:35 am (UTC)
what we do in Alexandria
Rachel describes what we do in Alexandria and did in NYC and have seen done elsewhere in the US. I arrive and get on line and there's a book with my name in it and address from when I registered. (Which has been made easy to do by allowing you to do it at Driver's License places which are all over, or when people on tables in the street set up registration drives). I say my name and show some proof of my residence, any official paper that shows that and many do. Then I can vote and not before.

So we see how trumped up this is.
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